Noob, Grow Light question

by Steve
(Cincinnati, Ohio)

If I were to start with a 4' x 4' foot garden what type of garden grow light should I use? Will just one of the more expensive higher-power grow lights be sufficient? How deep should the grow boxes be to accomodate root growth? Thanks for any help you can give, and have a great week.

Answer: To Steve and all noobs-

A 4'x 4' indoor garden is the ideal size for a 600 watt high pressure Sodium light or a 600 watt Metal Halide light. Both produce excellent results, as long as all of the other needs of your plants are met over the course of the growing period. Some plants require less than "full sun" to produce fruits, flowers, and fresh herbs (lettuce, spinach, and basil for a few examples). If you are growing a garden that will do well with less-than-full sun, then you could light your garden with two 2'x 4' fluorescent grow lights (specifically the Tek T5 lights).

Keep in mind the stronger the grow light, the stronger the exhaust fan you will need for the garden. A 600 watt light will require approximately a 400 CFM fan (or more) to cool it. A huge goal for the indoor garden space should be a running temperature of 72 degrees. The main thing you can do to accomplish this is to cool your light separately from the grow room. This strategy requires two exhaust fans, but is worth it....

To cool the grow light, pull air from somewhere outside the grow room (ideally with 6 inch duct minimum) through your grow light (which should be fully enclosed with glass in the bottom, and have 6" vent holes for the 6" ducting) and exhaust the air outside of the grow room with the first exhaust fan. To cool the grow room itself, you should be running an air conditioner in the grow room, or else pumping air-conditioned air from a third location (an adjacent room?) into the grow room with yet another fan. An exhaust fan should be put on a thermostat to kick on whenever the temperature gets too high (82 degrees, for example), and the exhaust run should be started as high in the grow room as possible (to exhaust the hottest air first).

If you are considering building a soil box beneath your grow lights, it should be about 4'x 4', and can be anywhere from about 6 inches deep, to about 18 inches deep, depending on exactly how big the finished plants are going to be. Bigger plants will require bigger root systems, and obviously more nutrients to grow both big and healthy. Tomatoes are a relatively heavy feeding garden plant (as are most vegetable producers), and also commonly finish their life cycle at about 3' or 4' tall. For this type of garden, I would use about 16 inches of soil. However, if you keep them well pruned so they finish shorter, I would say to make a 12 inch deep soil box.

You may have your heart set on organic gardening in soil, but no matter how nutritious you make your initial garden soil mix you will very probably need to apply additional nutrients at some point in the growing cycle. Here is my point- the soil in the soil box can be made less-deep, as long as you recognize that the plants will run out of the nutrients in the soil more quickly. Really the soil box only needs to be deep enough to provide support to your plants, as long as you are prepared to give them the nutrients they need (in their water) once they begin to use up all of the nutrients in the soil mix that you begin with.

I hope this helps everyone out there!

And Happy Growing!

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